Friday, 26 September 2025

What do you make of this YouTube comment: 'The only people who like this world are narcissists, sociopaths, and psychopaths. I always said if your mentally stable it's like they destroy you from the beginning because think about it a lot of people are born in dysfunctional families and the one who's stable will get the most damage'.

ChatGPT said:

That comment is raw, but it’s working with a few overlapping intuitions:

  1. The sense that the world is upside down.
    The commenter is saying that those who thrive are often the least empathetic, manipulative, or predatory, while those who try to live “stably” or decently get crushed. This echoes an old motif—“the meek suffer, the ruthless rise.” It’s not a clinical claim so much as an affective judgment about the structure of society.

  2. Stability as vulnerability.
    The phrase “the one who’s stable will get the most damage” suggests that in a dysfunctional family (or by extension, a dysfunctional society), the member who tries to maintain sanity, honesty, or balance becomes the scapegoat. In family systems theory, that’s close to the identified patient dynamic: the one who tries to hold or expose the dysfunction ends up bearing its brunt.

  3. The conflation of clinical and moral categories.
    The commenter lumps “narcissists, sociopaths, psychopaths” as if these are interchangeable labels for predatory personalities. They’re really working with “those who exploit” vs. “those who feel,” but using psychiatric language to name it. That’s common online—psychological categories get moralized.

  4. An inverted survival logic.
    Implicitly, they’re saying: in a broken environment, resilience and honesty aren’t rewarded—they’re punished. If you want to survive, you almost have to adopt some traits of the exploiters. That’s a bleak but recognizable take on how institutions and families often operate.

So, overall, the comment captures a feeling of alienation and moral inversion: that the world seems rigged against the conscientious. It’s not careful analysis, but it resonates with traditions of critique—from Nietzsche’s suspicion of herd morality, to Erich Fromm’s The Sane Society, to Cioran’s bleak reflections about existence rewarding the wrong qualities.

Would you like me to situate this more in terms of psychological theory (e.g., scapegoating, trauma in family systems) or more in philosophical terms (e.g., moral inversion, existential critique of the world)?

You said:
Both
ChatGPT said:

Alright—let’s try to braid both lenses together.


Psychological angle

  1. Family systems theory

    • In dysfunctional families, roles emerge: the scapegoat, the golden child, the hero, the lost child. The “stable one” often becomes the scapegoat—absorbing blame, projecting the family’s problems onto themselves, and suffering disproportionate damage. The system unconsciously needs someone to bear the burden of its incoherence.

    • That maps directly onto the comment: “the one who’s stable will get the most damage.”

  2. Attachment and trauma

    • People raised in high-conflict or neglectful environments often become hyper-attuned to others’ emotions. This “stability” is really survival hypervigilance, but it gets turned against them: manipulators exploit it. In adulthood, the sensitive, empathetic person may find themselves repeatedly entangled with exploiters.

    • Meanwhile, those with narcissistic or psychopathic traits often seem unfazed—they can adapt by numbing, controlling, or dominating. The comment’s claim—that the world favors them—reflects the painful mismatch between sensitivity and survival.

  3. Scapegoating as structural

    • Beyond families, whole workplaces, schools, or communities reproduce this pattern. The conscientious person who points out dysfunction often becomes the “problem.” The whistleblower is punished; the predator is promoted. The commenter is projecting that familiar dynamic onto the world at large.


Philosophical angle

  1. Moral inversion

    • The idea that those who exploit prosper while the virtuous suffer runs through history: the Psalms, Ecclesiastes, Dostoevsky, Nietzsche, Cioran. It is the sense that being good, sane, or loving doesn’t guarantee flourishing—sometimes it ensures persecution.

    • For Cioran, this is because life itself is structured against coherence: lucidity leads to despair, while illusion and callousness enable endurance.

  2. Existential destabilization

    • Kierkegaard: despair is the “sickness unto death” of the self trying to be itself in a hostile world. The commenter’s “if you’re mentally stable, they destroy you” echoes this—stability is not rewarded; instead, it reveals one’s fragility in a disordered environment.

    • Agamben: institutions don’t just fail the vulnerable, they produce vulnerability as such. The “stable” one in a dysfunctional system is destroyed not accidentally, but because systems preserve themselves through sacrifice.

  3. Critique of reality itself

    • The comment suggests that it is not just individuals who are dysfunctional, but the world-order itself. If only narcissists and sociopaths feel “at home” in it, then “reality” itself is skewed toward domination and dissimulation. That’s close to a Gnostic insight: the world as such is a botched creation, hostile to true life.


Synthesis

The YouTube comment is crude but telling:

  • Psychologically, it names the scapegoating dynamic where the one who resists dysfunction is punished most.

  • Philosophically, it expresses a sense of cosmic inversion—stability, empathy, and honesty are liabilities in a world structured for exploitation.

It isn’t a diagnosis; it’s a lament that blends lived trauma with existential critique. What makes it powerful is precisely that it straddles both registers: the micro (family, personal suffering) and the macro (the world as a hostile order).


Do you want me to push this toward a more consolatory direction (e.g. how thinkers/therapists have suggested living with this paradox), or toward a sharper critique (why this inversion might actually be necessary for the world to function as it does)?

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 Excellent question — and yes, there’s a real conceptual resonance between Žižek’s “fetishistic disavowal” and both pluralistic ignorance ...