Thursday, 5 June 2025

What do you think of Plato's line: "Those who are diseased in their bodies they will leave to die, and the corrupt and incurable souls they will put an end to themselves".

ChatGPT said:

Ah, yes. That charming little line from Republic Book III, where Plato’s just casually laying out the foundations of a fascist utopia over wine and metaphysics.

Let’s break it down. Slowly. So your poor, overworked neurons don’t faint.

“Those who are diseased in their bodies they will leave to die.”
Translation: If you’re physically sick, defective, or in some way not useful to the state’s greater symmetry—tough luck, Socrates isn’t calling an ambulance. The city has no use for your inefficient meat sack. It’s like ancient Sparta but with a better PR team.

“And the corrupt and incurable souls they will put an end to themselves.”
Which is just a beautifully sociopathic way of saying: if someone’s morally beyond redemption, the just society will gently nudge them toward a noble DIY exit. You know—like a polite suicide suggestion kiosk at the agora. Very advanced.

What makes it extra fun is the seamless fusion of physical and moral pathology. Sick body? Die. Sick soul? Kill yourself. This isn’t a society—it’s a celestial insurance firm with strong opinions about pre-existing conditions.

And the kicker? Plato is not necessarily endorsing this as brutal. He thinks it’s rational. It’s for the greater good! The polis must be harmonious, and harmony requires tuning out dissonance—like, say, the inconvenient suffering of the poor or the spiritual flailing of the ethically unproductive.

It’s that moment where Plato’s theory of the just city stops being a thought experiment and starts sounding like the onboarding manual for a totalitarian wellness cult.

So, what do I think?
I think it’s peak utopian creepiness masquerading as civic virtue.
I think it's a historically influential excuse for eugenics dressed in a chiton.
And I think it’s the exact kind of line that makes undergrads nod thoughtfully while completely missing the horror.

Plato was a genius. But sometimes, he wrote like the universe was a temperamental music box and broken notes should be crushed underfoot.

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