Monday, 26 January 2026

 Short answer: for Spinoza, God (or Nature) is the one substance; nature and all particular things are modes of God—not the other way around. God is not a mode of nature, and nature is not a separate substance alongside God.

Let me unpack this carefully, because Spinoza’s terminology is precise and easy to invert accidentally.


1. Substance, attribute, mode (Spinoza’s basic ontology)

In Ethics I, Spinoza defines:

  • Substance: that which is in itself and is conceived through itself
    → needs nothing else to exist or be understood.

  • Attribute: what the intellect perceives as constituting the essence of substance
    → e.g. thought and extension (the only ones humans know).

  • Mode: that which is in something else and is conceived through something else
    → particular things, states, events, ideas, bodies, affects.

This structure is strictly hierarchical.


2. God = the one substance

Spinoza argues that:

  • There can be only one substance.

  • That substance has infinitely many attributes.

  • This substance is God.

Hence the famous formula:

Deus sive NaturaGod, or Nature

This does not mean “God and Nature are two things that happen to coincide.”
It means: there is one reality that can be called either God or Nature.

So:

  • God is substance

  • God is not a mode

  • God is not reducible to anything else


3. Is nature a mode of God?

We need to distinguish two senses of “nature,” which Spinoza himself carefully separates:

Natura naturans vs. Natura naturata

  • Natura naturans (“nature naturing”):

    • God insofar as he is active, eternal, self-caused

    • This is substance itself

  • Natura naturata (“nature natured”):

    • The totality of finite things

    • The system of modes that follow from God’s essence

So:

  • Natura naturans = God = substance

  • Natura naturata = modes of God

Therefore:

Nature as productive power is not a mode
Nature as produced effects is entirely modal


4. Are things modes of God? Yes.

Everything finite is a mode of God under some attribute:

  • Bodies → modes of God under extension

  • Ideas → modes of God under thought

  • Affects → modes of ideas (and thus modes of God)

You are not a substance.
Your mind is not a substance.
Your reasoning is not a substance.

All are modes of the one substance.


5. Reason as a “mode of affect”

You’re right to connect reason and affect, but here’s the precise Spinozist picture:

  • Reason is a kind of idea

  • Ideas are modes of thought

  • Affects are modifications of both mind and body

Spinoza explicitly denies a sharp opposition between reason and affect:

  • Reason itself has affective power

  • Adequate ideas generate active affects

  • Inadequate ideas generate passive affects

So reason is not outside the affective economy—it is a more powerful and more adequate way of being affected and acting.

But still:

  • Reason = a mode

  • Affect = a mode

  • Both depend on God as substance


6. Is God what everything is “reducible” to?

Careful: Spinoza is not a reductive materialist or idealist.

  • Everything depends on God

  • But modes are not eliminated into God

  • Each mode has a determinate causal role within an attribute

So:

  • God is not a “thing behind things”

  • God is the immanent cause of all things

  • Things do not disappear into God; they express God

This is why Spinoza rejects both:

  • Transcendent theism (God outside the world)

  • Simple reductionism (only one kind of thing exists)


7. Final clarification (directly answering your question)

  • ❌ Nature is not a mode of God and vice versa

  • ✅ God is substance

  • ✅ Nature (in the sense of finite things) is modal

  • ✅ All things are in God and conceived through God

  • ❌ God is not reducible to nature as a collection of things

God is the single substance whose essence is expressed in infinite attributes and whose power is expressed in infinite modes.

If you want, I can also:

  • Compare this to Descartes’ substance dualism

  • Explain why Spinoza calls this “pantheism” (and why that label is misleading)

  • Trace how this leads to his ethics of freedom and joy

why must there be one substance, why can't there just be modes?

This question goes straight to the core of Ethics I. Spinoza’s claim that there must be one substance is not an arbitrary metaphysical preference; it follows from how he defines intelligibility itself. I’ll lay out the argument step by step, and then explain why “only modes” is incoherent within Spinoza’s framework.


1. What a mode is cannot be primary

Recall the definition:

  • Mode: that which is in another and is conceived through another

This already answers half the question. A mode is ontologically and conceptually dependent. To say “there are only modes” is, for Spinoza, like saying “there are only properties, but no thing that has them.”

A mode:

  • is in something else

  • is understood through something else

If there were only modes, there would be:

  • nothing they are in

  • nothing through which they are conceived

So the concept of “mode-only reality” collapses at the level of definition.


2. Spinoza’s Principle of Intelligibility

Spinoza accepts a strong rationalist principle:

Nothing exists or is conceived without a sufficient reason.

This applies not only to events, but to concepts.

If something exists, there must be:

  • an account of what it is

  • an account of why it exists as it does

Modes fail this test if taken as ultimate.


3. Why infinite regress won’t work

You might try to reply:

“Each mode is in another mode.”

Spinoza rejects this for two reasons:

(a) Conceptual regress

If A is conceived through B, and B through C, and so on forever, then nothing is ever conceived through itself. The entire chain lacks explanatory grounding.

Spinoza thinks explanation must terminate in something:

  • that is in itself

  • and conceived through itself

That terminating point is substance.

(b) Ontological regress

Modes are affections—determinate ways something is. An infinite regress of determinations with no determinate thing being determined is unintelligible.

Again: “only modes” = “only modifications, but no modifier.”


4. Why there can’t be many substances

Once you accept that some substance must exist, Spinoza then argues:

  • Substances are distinguished only by attributes

  • Two substances with the same attribute would be indistinguishable

  • Therefore, only one substance per attribute

  • God has all attributes

  • Therefore, only one substance absolutely

This is why Spinoza doesn’t just argue for “at least one substance,” but for exactly one.


5. Why modes cannot be self-caused

Another key claim:

  • Substance is causa sui (cause of itself)

  • Modes are caused by something else

If everything were a mode, then:

  • nothing would be self-caused

  • everything would depend on something else

  • but there would be no ultimate cause

For Spinoza, that violates the demand that reality be fully intelligible immanently, not by appeal to mystery.


6. “Why not brute modes?”

You might push back:

“Why can’t modes just exist brute-factly?”

This is precisely what Spinoza rejects. His system assumes:

  • intelligibility is not optional

  • explanation does not stop arbitrarily

This is not a neutral assumption; it’s a methodological commitment inherited from Euclidean geometry and rationalist science.

So the answer is not “because modes can’t exist without substance in general,” but:

Given Spinoza’s definitions and his rationalist demand for explanation, a mode-only ontology is incoherent.


7. A helpful analogy (Spinoza-friendly)

Think of:

  • Curvature without a surface

  • Motion without something that moves

  • Predicates without a subject

Spinoza thinks “modes without substance” are exactly like these.


8. Final formulation

So, in Spinoza’s terms:

  • Modes presuppose substance by definition

  • Infinite regress of modes explains nothing

  • Intelligibility requires something conceived through itself

  • That something must exist necessarily

  • That something is substance

  • And only one such substance can exist

If you’d like, we can:

  • Contrast this with Hume’s acceptance of brute facts

  • Show how Spinoza’s argument anticipates later grounding debates

  • Or examine whether Spinoza’s rationalist premise is defensible at all

I don't see why there can't be properties without things. A mode is that which is in another mode or modes and is conceived through another mode or modes.

Good—this is a serious and precise objection, and it gets to where Spinoza’s system actually stands or falls.

You are right to notice that nothing logical prevents us, in general, from positing properties without substances. Contemporary trope theory, bundle theory, and even some readings of Hume do exactly that. So the issue is not whether your proposal is coherent simpliciter. The issue is whether it is coherent within Spinoza’s framework and whether it preserves what his definitions are doing.

Let’s be very careful.


1. You are changing the definition of “mode”

Spinoza’s definition is:

Mode: that which is in another and is conceived through another

Crucially, he does not say:

“in another mode

He leaves “another” deliberately open—but it is constrained by how conception works elsewhere in the Ethics.

To be “conceived through another” means:

  • the definition of X presupposes the definition of Y

  • Y does not presuppose X in return

This is asymmetric dependence.

If you redefine modes as:

“that which is in another mode and conceived through another mode”

you have symmetrized dependence. That move is not innocent: it removes the asymmetry that Spinoza is using to ground explanation.


2. Why Spinoza needs asymmetric dependence

Spinoza’s system is built on the idea that explanation must terminate in something that is:

  • conceived through itself

  • whose concept does not involve the concept of another

This is not smuggled in later; it is already present in the definition of substance.

If every mode is:

  • conceived through another mode

  • and there is no non-modal terminus

then no concept is self-intelligible. Every concept defers explanation.

Spinoza’s objection is not “this is impossible,” but:

this does not explain anything.

For Spinoza, explanation is not optional.


3. Why infinite modal chains are not explanatory (for Spinoza)

Suppose we accept your proposal:

  • Mode A is in Mode B

  • Mode B is in Mode C

  • Mode C is in Mode D

  • … ad infinitum

Spinoza’s response is:

You have given:

  • determination

  • relation

  • dependence

But you have not given:

  • being

  • necessity

  • why there is this chain rather than none

In other words, you have redescribed dependence without grounding it.

This is why he insists on something that is:

  • in itself (not in another)

  • conceived through itself (not through another)

That is what “substance” means for him—nothing more mystical than that.


4. “Properties without things” vs Spinoza’s commitments

You are absolutely right that properties without substances are philosophically respectable in other systems.

But Spinoza explicitly rejects:

  • brute facts

  • ungrounded structures

  • self-sustaining relational webs

His rationalism includes the principle:

If something exists, there must be a reason in its nature or in another.

A mode-only ontology violates this as he understands reason, because:

  • every reason refers onward

  • nothing contains the reason for its own existence

So the disagreement is not logical, but methodological.


5. Why redefining “mode” collapses Spinoza’s distinctions

If modes can be conceived only through other modes, then:

  • the distinction between substance and mode disappears

  • the notion of attribute loses its function

  • God ceases to be causa sui

  • necessity becomes external rather than immanent

At that point, you no longer have Spinoza’s metaphysics—you have a different one, closer to:

  • Humean regularity

  • structural realism

  • or Deleuzian ungrounded difference (ironically!)

That may be preferable—but it is no longer Spinoza.


6. Where Spinoza would press you hardest

Spinoza would not ask:

“Why can’t there be only modes?”

He would ask:

“What makes this totality of modes necessary rather than contingent?”

If your answer is:

  • “it just is”

then you have rejected Spinoza’s core axiom:

Nothing is without a reason.

And that is the real point of divergence.


7. Bottom line

  • Yes, properties without things are coherent

  • Yes, a mode-only ontology is philosophically viable

  • No, it is not compatible with Spinoza’s definitions

  • And no, Spinoza is not begging the question—he is making a substantive rationalist commitment

So the dispute is not about coherence, but about what counts as explanation.

If you want, next we can:

  • Compare this directly to bundle theory

  • Show why Spinoza thinks necessity cannot emerge from relations alone

  • Or examine whether his demand for a self-conceived terminus is defensible at all

Show why Spinoza thinks necessity cannot emerge from relations alone

Good. Here is Spinoza’s argument, stripped of rhetoric and presented as tightly as possible. I’ll show why, for him, relations alone cannot generate necessity, and why he thinks necessity must be immanent rather than structural.

I’ll proceed in four steps.


1. What “necessity” means for Spinoza

Spinoza’s necessity is not:

  • statistical

  • nomological in the Humean sense

  • imposed by external laws

Necessity means:

that whose non-existence or non-being-thus is inconceivable.

Something is necessary if its concept itself explains why it exists and why it is as it is.

This is why Spinoza defines substance as causa sui:

  • its essence involves existence

  • it cannot fail to be

Necessity must therefore be internal to what a thing is, not something added later.


2. Why relations presuppose relata

A purely relational ontology says:

  • all that exists are relations among entities

  • nothing is self-subsisting

Spinoza’s objection is simple but deep:

A relation cannot explain its own necessity unless the relata already have determinate natures.

Why?

A relation tells you:

  • how things are ordered

  • how they depend on one another

But it does not tell you:

  • why this relation exists rather than another

  • why there is any relational structure at all

If every term in the structure is defined only by relations, then the whole structure is underdetermined with respect to necessity.


3. Why infinite relational closure does not help

You might reply:

“The entire relational system is necessary as a whole.”

Spinoza’s response:

Necessity cannot arise from closure alone.

Why not?

Because closure only means:

  • nothing external determines the system

But necessity requires:

  • that the system’s essence involves its existence

A closed relational web can still be:

  • conceivable as absent

  • conceivable as different

There is nothing in “relations all the way down” that forbids non-existence.

Spinoza’s test is conceptual, not empirical:

Can you conceive this whole relational structure as not existing?

If yes, it is not necessary.


4. Why dependence cannot produce necessity

This is the key move.

Every relation of dependence has the form:

  • X is because of Y

If everything is a relation, then:

  • everything is “because of something else”

But “because of something else” never yields necessity—only conditionality.

Even an infinite chain of “because of” statements gives you:

  • determination

  • order

  • explanation relative to other things

But it never gives:

  • explanation of existence as such

Spinoza’s claim:

Necessity cannot be inherited; it must be possessed.

That is, something cannot be necessary because of another unless that other is necessary in itself.


5. Why laws or structures won’t do the job

Suppose you say:

“The relations are governed by laws.”

Spinoza replies:

  • Laws are either descriptions or expressions

  • If they describe, they do not explain

  • If they explain, they express the nature of something

But if laws express a nature, then you have reintroduced substance under another name.

For Spinoza:

  • laws do not float free

  • they are expressions of essence

No essence → no genuine law → no necessity.


6. Why necessity must be immanent

This is why Spinoza insists on immanent causation:

  • God does not impose necessity from outside

  • God does not choose relations

  • Things follow from what God is

Necessity emerges because:

  • substance’s essence = power to exist and act

  • modes follow from that essence with the same necessity as geometrical truths

Relations among modes express this necessity—but they do not generate it.


7. Final formulation

Spinoza’s position can be stated cleanly:

  1. Necessity means inconceivability of non-existence.

  2. Relations explain how things depend, not why there is something rather than nothing.

  3. Dependence cannot ground necessity; it presupposes it.

  4. Only something whose essence involves existence can be necessary.

  5. Therefore, necessity must originate in something self-conceived.

  6. Relations alone cannot supply this.

So when Spinoza denies that necessity can emerge from relations alone, he is not making a metaphysical prejudice. He is enforcing a strict criterion:

If necessity is real, it must be readable off the concept of something.

Relations, by themselves, never meet that standard.

If you want, next we can:

  • Test whether Spinoza’s criterion for necessity is defensible

  • Compare this to modern structural realism

  • Or show exactly where a Humean would reject his argument

I don't see why you can't figure out why a particular relation exists by looking at it and other relations connected to it. I don't see why you can't, in principle, figure out why there is a relational structure at all by understanding the structures. "If every term in the structure is defined only by relations, then the whole structure is underdetermined with respect to necessity". But if terms are determined by relations then this would scale up to the whole structure, the whole structure would be determined by the relations which make it up. (Not sure that it matters but it's now thought that indeterminacy is baked in to nature, no?)

Good — this is exactly the pressure point. You’re not missing something obvious; you’re rejecting a Spinozist constraint on explanation, and you’re doing it coherently. What I need to do now is not repeat the earlier claim, but show why Spinoza thinks your scaling-up move fails, even if it feels natural (and even if many modern philosophers would accept it).

I’ll respond directly to your points, then isolate the precise axiom Spinoza is relying on.


1. “Why can’t relations determine relations all the way up?”

You say:

If terms are determined by relations then this would scale up to the whole structure.

Spinoza’s reply is subtle: determination is not the same as necessity.

From relations you can get:

  • why this relation follows from others

  • why the structure has this form rather than another given that it exists

But Spinoza insists that this still leaves open:

  • whether the whole structure exists at all

  • whether it exists necessarily or contingently

In other words, relational explanation is always conditional:

If the structure exists, then this relation must exist.

But necessity, for Spinoza, is:

The impossibility of the structure not existing.

No amount of internal articulation removes that modal gap.


2. Why internal coherence ≠ necessity (for Spinoza)

Here is the key Spinozist move:

Even a perfectly self-consistent, self-determining relational system can be conceived as absent.

You can fully understand:

  • Euclidean geometry

  • group theory

  • a complete causal network

And still intelligibly ask:

Why does this structure exist at all?

For Spinoza, the very intelligibility of that question shows the structure is not necessary in itself.

Necessity must be visible in the concept alone, not inferred from completeness or closure.


3. “But we can explain why there is a structure at all”

You suggest:

In principle, we could figure out why there is a relational structure at all by understanding the structures.

Spinoza’s response would be:

If the explanation appeals to:

  • another structure → regress

  • a meta-structure → same problem

  • laws governing structures → those laws require grounding

  • brute fact → rejection of PSR

Every such explanation either:

  • defers necessity

  • or abandons it

What you call “understanding the structure” never yields:

its non-existence is inconceivable

And that criterion is doing all the work.


4. Why scaling up doesn’t cross the modal threshold

Here’s the formal problem Spinoza sees:

Let:

  • R₁…Rₙ be relations

  • S be the total structure they form

You can show:

  • R₁ follows from R₂…Rₙ

  • S is internally determined

But you cannot show:

  • ¬S is contradictory

Unless:

  • S’s essence includes existence

Relations, as relations, never include existence in their essence. They describe how, not that.

So the scale-up never crosses from:

determined given existence
to
existence is necessary


5. Where modern physics does diverge

You’re right to note:

we know now that indeterminacy is baked into nature

Spinoza would reject this outright — not because he denies randomness phenomenologically, but because:

  • indeterminacy signals inadequate knowledge

  • necessity remains at the level of substance

  • probability reflects modal ignorance, not ontological looseness

This is a deep clash with post-quantum metaphysics. You are right that Spinoza cannot absorb fundamental indeterminacy without giving up his system.

So yes: from a modern standpoint, his necessity requirement looks excessive.


6. The real disagreement (now fully explicit)

At this point, the disagreement is not technical. It is axiomatic.

Spinoza assumes:

A thing is necessary only if its essence makes its non-existence inconceivable.

You are assuming:

A thing can be necessary if it is fully determined by relations, even if its existence is not conceptually self-entailing.

Once that assumption is granted, relational necessity is possible.

Spinoza simply refuses it.


7. Final diagnosis

So the correct conclusion is not:

“You are missing Spinoza’s point.”

It is:

You are explicitly rejecting Spinoza’s criterion for necessity — and that is exactly where his argument lives or dies.

Everything else follows from that.

If you want, next we can:

  • Translate this disagreement into modern modal logic

  • Compare Spinoza to structural realism or ontic structuralism

  • Ask whether Spinoza’s criterion for necessity is too strong, even by rationalist standards.

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