"Rawls remarks about the transition from the kind of unjust society in which we live to the one that realizes the ideals that he lays out in his theory are very limited and they're limited to mostly discussing the role of civil disobedience. Rawls says that we have to start with the simple cases of civil disobedience, assuming a more or less just order, and then once we're clear on the simple cases they can help us clarify the more difficult problems but it doesn't tell us how this orientation is supposed to work, if it works at all. The requirements of civil disobedience apply only when citizens are already motivated by justice, when they already want to realize the principles of justice and already acknowledge a public sense of justice. But the societies in which we live are rigged by class injustice and are societies in which the interests of a few wealthy citizens shape the dominant rules of social cooperation. So the societies in which we live are not at all like the societies in which Rawls thinks civil disobedience is required because we live in either laissez faire capitalism or in welfare state capitalism of a very bad type and these are societies where there is no just constitution".

"A sufficiently just liberal society is an illusion. The world in which we live has nothing to do with it. The earlier we abandon the illusion, the more effective our attempts to change it will be''.

Ypi (on Rawls)